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new Bibble5 camera profiles are usable in RT

 
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deejjjaaaa



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:21 pm    Post subject: new Bibble5 camera profiles are usable in RT Reply with quote

new Bibble5 camera profiles (http://ssl.bibblelabs.com/beta) are usable in RT (2.4RC)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WoW! Truly nice. They are named (for Canon) ie. canon1.icm, canon2.icm, ... and there are also canona.icm, canonb.icm...

Question: does anybody know how these profiles (if they are) relate to original canon picture style profiles (Standard, Landscape, Portrait, Neutral...)?

Thx

Offtopic: tried bibble5pro yesterday, and albeit they claim that IQ is much better than B4, I'm very dissapointed again, so for me, there is still no real alternative to RT on linux.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is there a list which new cameras will be supported in V5? and where did you find the V5 trial? i have looked around their site, but haven't found any download.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can get it here http://ssl.bibblelabs.com/beta. Just provide your email, where they send you trial license code.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please explain why someone would want to use the Bibble 5 camera profiles you mention and how one would do this in Raw Therapee.

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

coldplug wrote:

Offtopic: tried bibble5pro yesterday, and albeit they claim that IQ is much better than B4, I'm very dissapointed again, so for me, there is still no real alternative to RT on linux.


selective editing is a nice thing though...
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it is good, indeed, very nice work from Bibble stuff. But, lot of pink artefacts in highlights, that can not be ruled out with any setting change, strange noise in blue sky when boosting saturation, overall strange colors (RT give much nicer colors IMHO), I don't know, not looking good to me at this point. Maybe would be better with time, I will upload them few problematic images, they might look at them...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please can somebody with Bibble 5 share ICM profile for Sony DSLRs with me? Maybe send it to me by mail or put somewhere for download. Thank you in advance for sharing.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LemoNydes,

there is nothing called Sony in their profiles directory.

Code:
coldplug@ivan /opt/bibble5pro/supportfiles/Profiles $ ls
Adobe.icm                       canon2.icm      minolta1.icm
Apple.icm                       canon3.icm      minolta3.icm
CIE.icm                         canon4.icm      nikon1.icm
ColorMatch.icm                  canon5.icm      nikon2.icm
D1xAdobeL.icm                   canon6.icm      nikon3.icm
D1xSrgbG.icm                    canon7.icm      nikon4.icm
DCSEventLook.icm                canon8.icm      nikon5.icm
DCSPortraitGrayscale.icm        canon9.icm      nikon6.icm
DCSPortraitLook.icm             canona.icm      nikon7.icm
DCSPortraitLookRed.icm          canonb.icm      nikonb.icm
DCSProductGrayscale.icm         canonc.icm      nikonc.icm
DCSProductLook.icm              canond.icm      nklab.icm
DCSProductLookRed.icm           canond30r2.icm  nnhigh2.icm
DCSRGB.icm                      epson1.icm      nnhighfinal.icm
DCSWeddingLook.icm              er1.icm         nnhighnormal.icm
DefaultMonitor.icm              er2.icm         nnlin.icm
ERIMM_PCS3.icm                  er3.icm         nnlow2.icm
Ekta Space PS 5, J. Holmes.icc  er4.icm         nnlowfinal.icm
KODAK_sRGB.icm                  er5.icm         nnlownormal.icm
LStar-License.rtf               fuji1.icm       nnnormfinal.icm
LStar-RGB.icc                   high2.icm       normfinal.icm
LensProfiles                    highfinal.icm   oly1.icm
LinearRGB.icm                   highnormal.icm  oly2.icm
NTSC.icm                        kodak1.icm      oly3.icm
NoiseNinja                      kodak2.icm      oly4.icm
PAL.icm                         kodak3.icm      oly5.icm
ProPhotoRGB.icm                 lab.icm         pentax1.icm
SMPTE-C.icm                     leaf1.icm       prec.icm
WideGamut.icm                   lin.icm         rimm.icm
adobenkon.icm                   low2.icm        sRGB Color Space Profile.icm
bruce.icm                       lowfinal.icm    sRGB_v4_ICC_preference.icc
c.icm                           lownormal.icm   srgb.icm
canon1.icm                      mac.icm
coldplug@ivan /opt/bibble5pro/supportfiles/Profiles $


If you want, I can send you all of these, so you can try and see if any of these profiles will make your images better. I also think that no one profile named "canon" does relate to any Canon picture style, they are very different. I found few of them usable for some images, but for big number of images no profile from Bibble does give better colors (i.e. RT default is better).
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. There is even old Minolta but now Sony... Sad If the files are not so big and you have some time to pack them and send I will higly appriate this.

Thank you in advanced.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here you are,

cheers

http://www.meteoadriatic.net/pub/rt/bibble_profiles.tar.gz
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

coldplug wrote:
LemoNydes,

there is nothing called Sony in their profiles directory.


there are 2 directories (on Windows at least) - one w/ the legacy profiles and one w/ the new profiles (C:\Program Files\Bibble Labs\Bibble 5\supportfiles\NewProfiles)

there are 3 profiles for Sony :

sonya100.icm
sonya350.icm
sonya700.icm
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't catched that Laughing 40D profile for my canon looks promising and from first look it seems it gives better colors than default RT. It also significantly brighten the scene, so one might not need to boost exposure too much.

LemoNydes:
http://www.meteoadriatic.net/pub/rt/newprofiles.tar.gz

Thanks, deejjjaaaa!


Edit: but, after playing with few other photos I'm not so excited anymore. It is too bright sometimes, AND, highlight recovery does not work correctly if I use this profile.
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